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Figured I make this a post as my reply was so long to this...
Anonymous said...
You are absolutely crazy about your App State arguement. And Ole Miss is prolly the only SEC school that would not beat them and that would be a good game
3/30/2008 4:22 PM
Name an SEC team and the team they beat on the road that equals App State's win at the Big House... How many teams did you come up with 5... 4... 3... 2... 1?
Look, I'm an SEC shill, I think the last few years there has been a clear dilenation between that conference and the rest of football, with only a few other national teams that could compete in the top of the league. That being said... go back over the last five years for 3/4 of the conference and try and find a road win as big as ASU's... Not so easy.
You can't just write that game off... because it's simply not done. If it was then all the lesser SEC teams should have it on their resumes--and they don't. Recall Michigan was what 3rd (or 5th or 8th?) team in the country at the time. What did they finish ranked? They also never lose at home unless it's Ohio State.
Now you can call the game a fluke, which was one of their arguments, which would be wrong... Michigan simply couldn't stop ASU. They put up 40+ points at the Big House. A fluke is the favorite turns the ball over a lot, but the favorite also controlled possesion and only gave up a lucky touchdown or two, and the dog eke'd it out. ASU did no such thing. They beat them, and MU couldn't shake the hangover for two weeks. So if the game wasn't a fluke, you can't ignore it.
ASU pummeled every team they played in their playoffs (the only relevant games in their division), PUMMELED, and before you dismiss that bracket's comp, that's including other teams that recently beat or almost beat D1 teams at their place (including an SEC team).There is one thing to recognize the brilliance of the SEC and there is another to be blinded by it. I think ASU would beaten handily several SEC teams.
Unlike many around here, I'm a realist about the bottom of the league. Bama lost to a team ASU would have drilled near the end of the season. Bama like all of the lesser SEC teams could not have scored enough to stay in the game with ASU. Sorry it's true. I hate to admit it as an Auburn fan, I'd think ASU would score too much for them too, just as lowly South Florida did.
Now, recall the last dII team, forget the subdivison nomenclature crap, Marshall was that good, the very next season after drilling their comp, moved up a division and right into the top 25 and stayed there for a couple of years. Like ASU, Marshall dropped a game or two to their DII comp. Was Ole Miss better than them too? Sorry, I'm not blindly loyal enough to the SEC to suggest the entire league was better than a top 25 team then or now. ASU is that good. This team would have crushed a conference like CUSA's or the MAC and gotten a pretty good bowl bid. I guess Boise State was overrated when they were undefeated too.
Anonymous said...
You are absolutely crazy about your App State arguement. And Ole Miss is prolly the only SEC school that would not beat them and that would be a good game
3/30/2008 4:22 PM
Name an SEC team and the team they beat on the road that equals App State's win at the Big House... How many teams did you come up with 5... 4... 3... 2... 1?
Look, I'm an SEC shill, I think the last few years there has been a clear dilenation between that conference and the rest of football, with only a few other national teams that could compete in the top of the league. That being said... go back over the last five years for 3/4 of the conference and try and find a road win as big as ASU's... Not so easy.
You can't just write that game off... because it's simply not done. If it was then all the lesser SEC teams should have it on their resumes--and they don't. Recall Michigan was what 3rd (or 5th or 8th?) team in the country at the time. What did they finish ranked? They also never lose at home unless it's Ohio State.
Now you can call the game a fluke, which was one of their arguments, which would be wrong... Michigan simply couldn't stop ASU. They put up 40+ points at the Big House. A fluke is the favorite turns the ball over a lot, but the favorite also controlled possesion and only gave up a lucky touchdown or two, and the dog eke'd it out. ASU did no such thing. They beat them, and MU couldn't shake the hangover for two weeks. So if the game wasn't a fluke, you can't ignore it.
ASU pummeled every team they played in their playoffs (the only relevant games in their division), PUMMELED, and before you dismiss that bracket's comp, that's including other teams that recently beat or almost beat D1 teams at their place (including an SEC team).There is one thing to recognize the brilliance of the SEC and there is another to be blinded by it. I think ASU would beaten handily several SEC teams.
Unlike many around here, I'm a realist about the bottom of the league. Bama lost to a team ASU would have drilled near the end of the season. Bama like all of the lesser SEC teams could not have scored enough to stay in the game with ASU. Sorry it's true. I hate to admit it as an Auburn fan, I'd think ASU would score too much for them too, just as lowly South Florida did.
Now, recall the last dII team, forget the subdivison nomenclature crap, Marshall was that good, the very next season after drilling their comp, moved up a division and right into the top 25 and stayed there for a couple of years. Like ASU, Marshall dropped a game or two to their DII comp. Was Ole Miss better than them too? Sorry, I'm not blindly loyal enough to the SEC to suggest the entire league was better than a top 25 team then or now. ASU is that good. This team would have crushed a conference like CUSA's or the MAC and gotten a pretty good bowl bid. I guess Boise State was overrated when they were undefeated too.
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